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The Seperation wrote:
The end of The Separation.
Dear friends,

In the past week certain issues pertaining to a member of our band have come to light that we had previously been unaware of. Certain women within our community have come forward to share with us how they had been manipulated and deceived by this person. His actions have compromised the integrity of our band and our message, but more importantly, have deeply hurt members of our community. More specifically these actions had been perpetuating the sexism and misogyny which we as a band had always made a point to address and confront. Because our touring and traveling had facilitated the means by which he had been able to meet these people and carry out such actions, we have decided to no longer continue as a band as this would negate the purpose behind our music. This decision has been made out of respect and support for those directly affected by his selfish actions. We hope that this reflects our continued desire to strive towards equality within our community and preserves our message as a band.

This person has expressed deep remorse and regret, as well as a desire to correct his faults and change his behavior. He is still a beloved friend of ours, and we wholeheartedly intend to support him in his efforts.

We are forever in debt to all of our amazing friends who have continually loved and supported us. This band has been an invaluable experience that we will never forget. For all those who have ever listened to us, fed us, sang along, given us a place to sleep, hung out with us, bought and/or put out our records, you have made The Separation what it was. Thank you from the bottom of our hearts.



Sincerely,

Ben, Kyle, Joey and Andy

Andrew wrote:Hmm, seems a little extreme to me. If they intend to make amends, the guy is sorry, and they still want to be friends with him and support him, why break up the band over this? Seems like the dismantling of the band is a punishment to the wrong-doer in the band, a bit of the "throw the baby out with the bath water" effect.

I respect that they feel so strongly about their message and ethics, but to me if the band was "mis-used" in their eyes, why not use the band to fix the wrong doing instead of destroying it?

Without knowing what the guy did it's hard to say how strongly I'd feel about his actions. If what he did was criminal that's a whole other level, but if the guy was just a bit of a dog, i wonder about ending the band over it.

Andrew wrote:I'm sure they're being vague to not bash their bandmate, but this statement will probably spurn more rumor and conjecture than if they'd just layed out what happened.

Probably would have been better to just break up and not release a statement about the why. Or get a new drummer if they weren't happy with him in the band, that'd be a stronger support of their message in my eyes.

trappedinside wrote:So they're still "dear friends" with this guy yet they really absolutely couldn't have finished the last two goddamn shows of their tour? I dunno man...

tylerp wrote:how to properly do this:

1) finish tour
2) break up

grind/bro wrote:I don't think any of us were in the band at all, so them breaking up midtour and going home is the right thing to do if they feel it is. I wouldn't want to keep touring with someone that I know has a serious "problem" or playing shows would make the band too volatile. Finishing the tour probably would have just felt terrible for them.

Rude Boy Puff wrote:I dont care they went home but if dude has an issue with girls there are 2 ways to handle it

a.) leave him at the side of the road in any condition you see fit. Go home and air your shit on the internet
and
b.)realize hes your friend and help him through his problem and not go home and air your personal shit on the internet

They chose to keep him as a friend but make him out to be a pedophile on the internet. I just dont get it is all.

Hollow wrote:

Rude Boy Puff wrote:I dont care they went home but if dude has an issue with girls there are 2 ways to handle it

a.) leave him at the side of the road in any condition you see fit. Go home and air your shit on the internet
and
b.)realize hes your friend and help him through his problem and not go home and air your personal shit on the internet

They chose to keep him as a friend but make him out to be a pedophile on the internet. I just dont get it is all.

Also, this. All that post did was fuel speculation.